Brené Brown told Fortune that leaders who ‘can’t discuss people’s fears’ will not be leading in the future

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Carson Coffman is a writer and contributor at Mindset with a background in sports journalism and coaching — including work with Sports Illustrated and experience as...

In 2018, Brene Brown walked into a room full of Air Force squadron commanders to deliver a leadership training. She warned the brigadier general beforehand that the session would involve discussing fears and feelings. She expected pushback. She got the opposite.

“When your life’s on the line, you have to always deal with fears and feelings,” the general told her. “We don’t let you lead people here unless you can have a deep affection for them.”

That quote should end every argument about whether vulnerability in leadership is “too soft” for serious organizations. These are combat leaders. They send people into situations where mistakes cost lives. And their prerequisite for leadership is the ability to feel deeply for the people you lead.

The excuse that just collapsed

I have sat in enough corporate leadership meetings to recognize the reflex. Someone brings up emotional intelligence or psychological safety and a certain type of senior leader shifts in their chair. They might not say it out loud, but the objection is always some version of: we are running a business, not a support group.

The Air Force story removes the floor from that argument. If fighter pilots and squadron commanders treat emotional openness as a job requirement, then the VP of sales who rolls his eyes at a conversation about team anxiety is not being tough. He is being less rigorous than the military about what leadership actually demands.

This is the uncomfortable part. Brown is not asking leaders to be softer. She is presenting data that says emotional avoidance is a leadership failure, and the organizations with the highest stakes figured this out first.

What 1,280 interviews and 11,000 coded incidents found

Brown’s research at the University of Houston spans more than 20 years. Using grounded theory methodology, she has conducted over 1,280 in-depth interviews, coded approximately 11,000 incidents from field notes, and analyzed more than 3,500 pieces of secondary data. She has trained roughly 15,000 mental health and addiction professionals and taught about 400 graduate students. This is not a TED talk that went viral and became a consulting career. The consulting career sits on top of one of the largest qualitative datasets on vulnerability, shame, courage, and connection in the social sciences.

The central finding, repeated across all of that data: courage and vulnerability are inseparable. You cannot have one without the other.

People who demonstrate courage at work, taking creative risks, raising problems early, admitting they were wrong, are the same people willing to be vulnerable. And people who protect themselves from vulnerability also protect themselves from courage. They hide mistakes. They go along with plans they know are flawed. They wait for someone else to say the thing everyone is thinking.

The Fortune quote that should worry every manager

Brown told Fortune: “If you are a leader and you do not have the capacity to understand and discuss people’s fears and feelings, you will not be leading in the future.”

That is not motivational language. It is a prediction grounded in two decades of data. And I think she is right, though not for the inspirational reasons people might assume.

The practical mechanism is straightforward. When a leader cannot discuss what their team is actually feeling, problems go underground. The engineer who is worried a deadline is impossible does not say so. The account manager who knows a client is about to leave drops hints instead of raising the alarm. The new hire who is drowning asks for nothing because the culture rewards looking capable.

These hidden problems compound. By the time they surface, they have grown from manageable to severe. And the best people, the ones with options, leave before the problems even surface. They leave because they are tired of pretending.

This connects to what researchers keep finding about psychological safety in practice. The concept is not about comfort. It is about a team’s ability to surface bad news fast enough to act on it. Brown’s work explains the emotional infrastructure underneath that ability. You cannot build a psychologically safe team if the person at the top of it cannot tolerate hearing what the team is afraid of.

Going first is the only way this works

Brown’s data shows a consistent pattern: vulnerability is contagious, but it flows downhill. The leader has to go first. If you want your team to tell you what they are afraid of, you have to tell them what you are afraid of.

This does not mean running a confessional. It means saying, in a regular team meeting, something like: “I do not know how this reorg is going to play out and that makes me anxious too.” Or: “I made a bad call on that timeline and I want to talk about what I missed.” These are small acts. They take about 15 seconds. And according to Brown’s research, they change what people around you believe is safe to say.

The leaders I have watched do this well are not the ones who make a performance of openness. They are the ones who say the honest thing so naturally that it does not feel like a technique. The ones who do it badly announce that they are “being vulnerable” and then share something pre-packaged. People can tell the difference instantly.

One concrete test: in your next team meeting, ask “What are we not talking about?” and then sit in the silence. The discomfort you feel during that silence is the exact sensation Brown’s research identifies as the entry point for courage. If you fill the silence to make it stop, you have just taught your team that the real answer to “what are we not talking about” is “whatever it was, we are still not talking about it.”

Why the “too soft” crowd keeps losing people

Here is what I find most striking about the resistance to Brown’s work. The leaders who dismiss vulnerability leadership courage as soft tend to believe they are retaining people through high standards and strong results. But the data on why strong performers leave their managers tells a different story. People do not leave because expectations are high. They leave because they feel unable to be honest about what is hard.

A team where everyone pretends things are fine is not a high-performing team. It is a team performing “high-performing.” The real high-performing teams are the ones where someone can say “this is broken” on a Tuesday and the group fixes it by Thursday, instead of letting it fester until it blows up in a quarterly review.

Brown’s Dare to Lead curriculum, now delivered through the Center for Daring Leadership at BetterUp, trains managers to build this kind of team. The fact that this has moved from books and TED talks (hers has over 65 million views) into structured organizational training suggests that the demand is outrunning the “too soft” objection. Companies are not adopting vulnerability training because it sounds nice. They are adopting it because the cost of emotional avoidance shows up in their retention numbers and their incident reports.

The brigadier general put it plainly. You have to deal with fears and feelings. The only question is whether you deal with them before they cost you your people, or after.

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Carson Coffman is a writer and contributor at Mindset with a background in sports journalism and coaching — including work with Sports Illustrated and experience as a defensive coordinator. He holds a BBA in Business Administration and Marketing and writes about leadership, strategy, and entrepreneurship through the lens of performance and competitive thinking.